Plato_Symposium_Lecture 1

 

Thinking, Making, Doing

 

To think (large use): To use concepts, to use conceptual terms in order to articulate – verbally or mentally - a discourse that elucidates an issue, tries to find out something, or solve a problem, through thinking. Paradigmatic figure: the philosopher.

Traditional philosophical thinking: very comprehensive, abstract and concerned with ‘deep’ issues like ‘the meaning and nature of life;’ ‘what kinds of things there are’ and whether those kinds exhibit an order (ontology); how we ought to live (ethics); what our values ought to be, and how we ought to use them.

 

To make: The action of bringing about a work by using material as means. Work is meant to fulfill functions. Main features: Either let a purpose or end be given, then find the means to realize it and set yourself to work in order to realize it. (Paradigmatic figure: craftsman, engineer) Or: to have an understanding according to which something can or might be able to be brought about. Then set out to bring it about, whether or not the result serves a purpose. (Paradigmatic figures: the scientist, the inventor)

 

To do: Unspecific term in everyday use. Here: to perform an action as realizing a value or a virtue. Cognitively: to know the motives, reasons, consequences of one’s actions. Normatively: to evaluate and control one’s actions. (Paradigmatic figures: the statesman, the saint, life lived as ‘examined life,’ the ideal democrat .)

 

II. My Project in this Course:

 

Show two samples of philosophical thinking, going back to its founding fathers. Philosophy aspires at being the representative of thinking in academia. Socrates – the one who did not write – was Plato’s teacher; Plato was Aristotle’s teacher.

 

Plato/Socrates and Aristotle.

 

Two, or even three very different philosophical personae: Socrates, the one of common origin, who questions and argues. Plato, the aristocrat who uses Socrates’ method to gain access to eternal truths and the good and orient his fellow citizens towards the right kind of life. Aristotle, son of a doctor in the province, who draws the most comprehensive picture of nature, life, man and wants to guide us towards the best possible realization of ourselves. Plato, the artistic temperament. Aristotle, the scientific temperament.

 

III. The Symposium:

 

1. General:

 

“Symposium: “to gather to drink together.” Plato makes it into a gathering for presentations and discussions.

 

Choosing to have “speeches in praise of ‘Eros’ lets the speeches be of the rhetorical genre of the encomium, i.e. of a speech meant to praise, normally a person. Does praise get in the way of truth? (fast-forward to Agathon and Socrates’ questioning of Agathon).

 

Philosophizing is here performed in the form of drama: enacted on a scene, be it as exchange of dialogue, be it as soliloquy of speech, be it of scenic description. The frame is not exploratory, but laudatory. In addition, the participants compete for ‘best laudatory speech.’ Is that doing ‘thinking?’ Can one think ‘competitively?’ What is the significance of presenting thinking in this form? Drama, narrative fiction, myth - and truth.

 

7 Speeches: Phaedrus, Pausanias, Eryximachus, Aristophanes, Agathon, Diotima, Alcibiades. Opened, interrupted, joined by dialogues: Apollodurus and friend. The whole reported by Apollodurus who relates to his friend what he has been told by a certain Aristodemus (173B.2), who was present but did not participate in the debate. Both narrators pop up in the text from time to time to remind us that we are reading something that is narrated, and to tell us apparently anecdotal things like Aristophanes’ hiccup. 1001 Nights!

 

Functions of frame.

 

Temporal distance alerts to destinies of participants after Symposium, Alcibiades deeds and treason.

 

The two narrators are Socrates fans. Perspective: selection and representation are favorable to Socrates.

 

Speeches and dialogues present very different ideas of love, or love in many different manifestations. Are they ordered? Is there a thread?

 

Three orders: (1) Different aspects and points of view; multiperspectivalness. (2) Later ones criticize and supercede earlier ones; a line of ascendance. (3) What is missing in one speech is provided by another; a cumulative effect, complementation.

 

 

2. The Speeches:

 

Phaedrus presents love in the embellishing light of greatness, nobility, and as a device that confers virtues. His picture of love is the idealized love in a society of heroic values. An army made of lovers would be more courageous than other armies (178E.4). Lovers are prepared to die for each other. Love guides lover and beloved in giving them a sense of shame and pride. With those senses one “acts well” (178D.2).

 

Phaedrus, the beautiful young man with whom Agathon is in love (and Socrates elsewhere), tells us what he thinks one ought to say. His picture is entirely normative. Does not find much support in the facts. Is the heroic ideal really the best thing one can say about what or how love ought to be?

 

Pausanias exploits the weaknesses of Phaedrus’ speech. He also articulates a normative ideal. Some of it more what he would like love to be than what others think it is or ought to be! His strategy is to distinguish low and high love: Heavenly and Common Aphrodite. The interesting core of his position is how he distributes aspects and manifestations of love over the two sides.

 

Common Aphrodite

Heavenly Aphrodite

 

 

Of body

Of soul

Main object: intercourse, physical intimacy

Abstain from intimacy

 

 

Each keeps his own

and watches over his own

Share everything

Short-lived

Stay together one’s whole life

 

 

For object: Yield quickly

Resist, test the interest of suitor

To seduce or let oneself be seduced by

wealth or power

To be motivated by genuine affection

Under conditions of ‘common love’ it is shameful to be deceived

If conditions of ‘heavenly love’ are fulfilled, it is not shameful to be deceived

 

Observations and problems:

 

Pausanias is an ideologue of homosexuality and of the Athenian ways.

 

His stated ideal is a relation between an older man and an adolescent approaching adulthood that is not lived as passion and physical intimacy, by someone who imposes restraint on himself as concerns intimacy, preferably in Athens. The normative ideal, then, is a male, homosexual relation without intimacy. And the Athenians are the only cultivated people. Women are not even considered as lovers, only as objects of love. Law forbidding affairs with young boys.

 

Sketches a special normative ethics for his preferred relation. (Important for the relation between Alcibiades and Socrates at the end). Pausanias calls it “freedom.” Among the rules for what is right and honorable in a homoerotic relation:

Publicly declare your interest is honorable.

Conquest (of what kind?) is noble.

Attempt at conquest justifies actions otherwise dishonorable such as servility and public self-humiliation directed at the beloved.

Does love require and justify a code of its own?

 

Pausanias is not very explicit about what it is to give oneself to another man (183D.7). Would it not mean that, for a noble man, it is right to engage in intimacy, but for someone who is not noble that is not the case? A self-licensing and unethical effort, hidden behind the apparent ‘high’ moral stance? Aristophanes’ hiccup as critical response!

 

 

After the conventional praise of ‘Eros’ by Phaedrus, and the self-serving propaganda speech of Pausanias (homosexuality and Athens) – both predominantly normative, partial, ideologically and personally biased - we get into different water with the speeches of Eryximachus and Aristophanes. They offer different models of love, expressed in two different media: discourse and myth. Praise (encomium) is not absent, but recedes into the background.

 

Eryximachus

 

Eryximachus makes a particular effort to divert the waters of love to his craft: medicine.

Love as a dynamic principle: “it directs everything that occurs” (186B.3). The whole world is supposed to be ‘love’s labor.’

 

Leading idea: Opposites underlie what we encounter. Things are in good order only when opposites are brought into harmony. When the opposites are not brought into harmony the phenomena will be in disorder. Love is the regulatory principle, in fact a deity, that brings about order and disorder in the phenomena. Good order is the work of the good kind of love; disorder is the doing of the bad kind of love. There are thus two species of love: ‘bad-love’ and ‘good-love.’ One is regulating. The other is deregulating.

 

Problems:

 

       Eryximachus’ model of love loses the specificity of love, paying for the ubiquity

       of Eryximach’ean ‘love’ the price of saying very little about what love is for us.

       Is love for us a general binding and unbinding principle? What does that mean?

      What happened to beauty and erotic pleasure?

 

 

Eryximachus adopts, and adapts analogizingly, Pausanias’ moral distinction between the two kinds of love. ‘Good’ love works towards concord between opposites, ‘bad’ love towards discord. The model of basic oppositions brought into harmony by something external to the oppositions, and the idea that ‘bad love’ is a principle of discord in the cosmos are not coherently developed by Eryximachus.

 

It is also an inadequate idea of love because it leaves out the ideas of desire, attachment, and the role of beauty. We do not recognize our love in Eryximachus’ ‘love.’ But the dynamicity and regulatory ideas are important elements of an adequate concept of love. (cf. Diotima: to give birth in beauty, 206B9). Ultimately, he simply introduces a new concept of love, a concept that does not fit the phenomena we experience as love.

 

Aristophanes:

 

Pivotal. The only attractive seriously competing model to Diotima/Socrates conception! Eroticism at the center.

 

Use of myth/story and irony as media. Articulates fundamentals of the ‘Erotic’ in a tongue-in-cheek way. Central model: erotic love is desire for a unity that is never achieved, but nevertheless brings about unions of different kinds (191D). Introduces the concept of desire.

 

 

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Myth is the principal means of articulation. Ideas need to be found by interpreting a story. Our present being and present dispositions shaped by ‘love’ are supposed to have come about in the following way:

 

- First phase: As yet, there is no place for love, as we understand it. Three kinds of gendered beings and their modalities: purely male, purely female, mixed male and female. Each being has 4 arms, four legs and two faces. Genitals are also double. Each of the different kinds is offspring from a planet: male from sun, female from earth, mixed from moon. (Being round because one’s forebears are round pokes fun at analogizing argument (à Eryximachus). But there may be an allusion to the idea that the earth is also round!). Our ancestors move like balls or tumbleweed. (No intercourse and sexual reproduction in phase 1. Arch-beings are gestated in the earth like cicadas.

 

Change initiated by hubris of humans intending to attack the gods. Different scenarios. Zeus forms plan to cut them in two, and to threaten them with further division.

 

-         First modification and second phase: Halving of humans. Head turned around. Skin drawn over wound and refashioning of body. Upright gait. Decisive consequence for the origin of love: longing for lost unity and wholeness (191A.6). But that longing is not yet erotic longing, for it is as yet unrelated to sexual union, still unproductive and un-reproductive. Genitals still at the side away from the faces.

 

Further changes are triggered by unproductive effort to grow together again. Humans would die out. Zeus intervenes a second time. Then

 

-         Second modification and third phase: Sexual organs are moved to front and put into present places. Change of reproductive mode. Now “at the interior” and requiring sexual union of male and female genitals, instead of ‘out of the earth.’ Acting from a desire for wholeness and acting towards reproduction are amalgamated into one act. They are real merely in the relation between male and female, originally the mixed ‘whole’ being. Note the ironical distinction of homoerotic and hetero-erotic lovemaking, also letting the two modes appear as purely functional and biological differences without a difference in value (against Pausanias). First recognition of lesbian orientation, also as equal. 

 

Ideas about love expressed in the ‘genealogical’ mode of Aristophanes’ myth:

 

Different gender orientations (homo-/hetero-) are equal. Each fulfills specific social functions. For example: homosexuality generates politicians and “lovers of love.” (Opposes preference for male homosexuality), heterosexuality generates offspring.

 

The physical aspect of love is emphasized and recognized as worthy. ‘Eros’ is, among other things, pleasure in sexual union, both physical and mental.

(Opposition to soul-love as better part of love in preceding speeches).

 

‘Explanation’ for and recognition of becoming stricken by love: we happen upon our lost other half. Also explanation of ‘this is the one and only …’ (193C.5)

(Accounts of what happens to and in lovers were absent from previous speeches, or pointed to inadequate motives).

 

Explanation of desire for fusion. Hypothesis that, if we could we’d want to “melt together” as account of the deep bond between lovers. (Is this tongue-in-cheek?). ‘Desire’ becomes a motive that is unable to attain its end, and therefore recurs.

 

2 major achievements in Aristophanes, (deeper in insight than Diotima’s position?): (1) desire in love is not originally erotic. Its goal is restitution and return to lost completeness. Desire is never satisfied in the act of sexual union; (2) erotic pleasure and its function in reproduction are add-ons. Explanation for joy in pure desire even without satisfaction of erotic component, and essential lack of fulfillment as features of love (192D.1)

 

Finally, the conclusion that praises love (193 C and 193 D). Irony, and bow to genre of encomium?

 

Medium: the story is of course non-sense as historical account. But Aristophanes’ unlikely story carries more and better truths than the more discursive speeches. It would be particularly interesting to explore in greater depth how the theses are hung into the narrative, or how the narrative shows the theses.

 

Problems:

 

Can Aristophanes’ theses be differently accounted for, in case the absurd assumptions of the myth are dropped? How would one go about doing that? Aristophanes’ myth catches major tensions of love, but still over-rationalizes them by offering a mythical account. Does it make sense to think that erotic encounters and sexual union express a desire for fusion? Is the ‘coup-de-foudre’ – ‘love at first sight’ – adequately understood as relying on memory, and not just a sudden and unexplainable event? (Same for gender orientation).

 

Agathon

 

Documents praise without truth. Empty beauty of speech.

 

Another playwright, but of tragedies. Also a follower of the sophists. Also supposed to be the most beautiful man in the group. Also, later, someone who aligns himself with a tyrant.

 

Agathon’s main claim: I am praising the God ‘Eros’ by, before all, saying what he is and, secondarily, saying what he gives us. Throws in a huge number of value terms of praise: ‘Eros’ is the happiest, the most beautiful, the best. Young (meant as praise), delicate, dwells in the softest, possesses fluid supple shape, good looks, exquisite coloring of skin, settles where the atmosphere is flowery and fragrant.

 

Moral character, probably meant to exhibit ‘Eros’’ gifts: ‘Eros’ does not suffer or inflict injustice, promotes moderation, the most brave, seems to produce the best of everything, (poets, artisans, animals, …). Agathon ends with a list of everything that counts as good and claims that this is the doing of ‘Eros.’

 

Agathon’s success is palpable in the applause. Agathon spoke well. But did he praise the God? In one sense he did: He mentions good things, and attributes them to ‘Eros.’ Agathon praises merely in the sense of saying something good about ‘Eros.’

 

In his questioning of Agathon, Socrates requests more: “I thought you should tell the truth about whatever you praise” (198D.4). Question: Why should adequate praise depend on truth of things said in praise? Praise is supposed to have practical consequences.

Agathon and Socrates operate with two different ideas about praise and the function of speech.

Praise, Idea # 1 (Agathon): To adequately praise is to successfully praise. To praise successfully is to get the addressees of praise to think highly of the one who is the object of praise. Background: either there is no such thing as truth – or: truth does not matter for positive opinion about object. (the Sophists).

Praise, Idea # 2 (Socrates): Praise serves the purpose of making us rely on or want to emulate the being who is the object of praise. We are justified in relying or emulating only if what the one who is the object indeed has the qualities for which he is being praised. Otherwise the praise is empty and even dangerous. We may be relying on someone who ought not to be trusted. Or emulate someone and thereby emulating qualities that are not praise- worthy.